Falcon Studios scene numbering

Falcon Studios (and network sites) releases scenes in “movies” with identical name across scenes.
Before their site renewal, Scene number was shown in page title. However, nowadays it not.

Current consensus is to name scenes form " Forbidden, Scene 1"

That come actually from my personal preference, because I was adding most of those scenes at the time :grinning_face: Site title has slightly different format

However, numbering has to be done by hand (counting scenes manually) and they change numbering now and then to actual dvd releases (like there)

What should we do? Are there similar cases?

  • Keep things as it is
  • Keep only movie title, leading duplicate titles
  • Change format Movie name: Performers
  • Wait for scene numbering support in stashdb
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I don’t think duplicate titles are the right answer, especially since these scenes don’t actually have their own titles. They just inherit the name of the movie they share. Wicked (also distributed by Gamma) has a similar issue, but I think they eventually update scenes to include the episode number and a unique title, both of which are usually displayed on the scene cover from the start.

We’ve already made exceptions to the “original official title” guideline in these situations, adding a scene/episode/appearance number to the end according to an established studio convention. It would be nice to have a universal format across all of StashDB, but it’s not really necessary. As long as we try to keep it consistent within that particular network/studio then it’s fine.

I dug a little deeper into this particular example. From a couple Wayback Machine archives I found, it doesn’t look like this studio had their own numbering format as far back as 6 years ago. And it also looks like the Movie Name, Scene # format is by far the most common for this network, dating back to the oldest submissions to StashDB.

I don’t see any reason to change that convention, so I would just keep doing what we’re already doing. It’s a lot easier to fix the few outliers then to overhaul the entire network. And when the numbering differs between the website and the DVD, keep the website’s original numbering.

Yes, I prefer current state, but just wondering that it requires lot of manual work and guessing as there is no easy way to calculate scene number from scraper/api (other that counting duplicate names and do counting, or are there? At a quick glance I not found any logic in scene ID’s to do this).

As scene numbering was deleted quite recently from studio site (After general Gamma redesign) , there is change that it is available somewhere.

Old format from 2023, number only in <title> -tag: It's Complicated, Scene #03 | Falcon Studios Video

Scenes without numbering are popping out now and then, so just wondering that if scraper should modified to generate different titles.

Maybe adding subtitle (Same way like performer disamiguation field works) is one way to solve this?

I try to dig deeper at some point is there something to do with python scraper. Meantime please report if there is any other similar Gamma sites. :wink:

They don’t update the title, they’re cribbed from the cover image :slightly_smiling_face:

They are Gamma. Scene numbers are included in the data from their Algolia API. The mapping between scenes and movies is pretty straightforward in their database. I understand the issue you raise on stashDB but there is no limitation imposed by Gamma.